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  1. #1
    تاريخ التسجيل
    May 2009
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    USA
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    إفتراضي Abdel Hay Hilmi / Dawr: Kan Mali Bhobak (Baidaphon)

    Abdel Hay Hilmi
    Dawr: Kan Mali Bhobak
    Baidaphon 1973/74
    Talheen: Abdo El Hamuli
    maqam dalansheen + kardan (replace jins saba on husseini (dalansheen) with bayati on husseini (kardan))
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    آخر تعديل بواسطة AlfLeila ، 11-11-2020 الساعة 04:26

  2. #2
    تاريخ التسجيل
    Sep 2005
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    Vienna, Austria
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    18

    إفتراضي

    This is a peculiar recording. I had already in my library two versions of this dawr (both of poor sound quality) and probably both Odeon takes, one by Hilmi in bayati from the beginning, including the dulab and the long introductory layali with hardly a slight variation in shuri, and one all the way in saba without any modal variation by Sulayman 'abu dawud. My guess is that Hilmi here, either purposefully or unconsciously, produced a mix of the two versions. In fact, what he does is to change his mind in the last minute; the dulab is in saba, he starts the short layali in saba and from the first notes of the madhhab he moves to bayati with a transition that hints to rast,. But, in my view, it is neither rast nor dalanshin. Once he's gone in bayati, he doesn't leave it till the end. Another trick of those to which we are now accustomed from 'abdi-l-hay.
    Could you kindly upload a raw copy?
    أبو علاء

  3. #3
    تاريخ التسجيل
    Jul 2005
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    London
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    إفتراضي

    very peculiar indeed, thank you both


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    Mustapha Said - Rubaiyyat

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    تاريخ التسجيل
    May 2009
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    USA
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    إفتراضي

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    This is a peculiar recording. I had already in my library two versions of this dawr (both of poor sound quality) and probably both Odeon takes, one by Hilmi in bayati from the beginning, including the dulab and the long introductory layali with hardly a slight variation in shuri, and one all the way in saba without any modal variation by Sulayman 'abu dawud. My guess is that Hilmi here, either purposefully or unconsciously, produced a mix of the two versions. In fact, what he does is to change his mind in the last minute; the dulab is in saba, he starts the short layali in saba and from the first notes of the madhhab he moves to bayati with a transition that hints to rast,. But, in my view, it is neither rast nor dalanshin. Once he's gone in bayati, he doesn't leave it till the end. Another trick of those to which we are now accustomed from 'abdi-l-hay.[/SIZE]
    very interesting. i havent heard the other versions of this dawr


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    [SIZE=3]Could you kindly upload a raw copy?
    sure here you go
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  5. #5
    تاريخ التسجيل
    Sep 2005
    الإقامة
    Vienna, Austria
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    إفتراضي

    Thank you very much.
    أبو علاء

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